From: Kaike Pan Subject: Re: [sloan-25mlog 4393] 2.5m obslog 20190218 (SJD 58533) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:54:31 -0700 --Apple-Mail=_45BF0563-52D8-494B-996E-77D7F61F258D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Feb 19, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Wilson, John C (jcw6z) = wrote: >=20 > Hi Kaike, >=20 > Just a few questions on the night log: >=20 > I may be wrong, but I thought we were trying to eliminate use of = neutral density filters from the filter stack on the engineering camera = when taking pointing models. Now that may be predicated on use of a = Gaia catalogue with appropriate magnitudes. And it looks like you were = trying to do an instrument block with the engineering camera, not the = pointing model itself. Am I mistaken about the goal to remove ND = filters? There are not many stars fainter than 10 mag in the current catalog. I = cannot do instrument block or pointing models without ND filters. Yes, = if we have enough stars in the magnitude rang of 13 to 14, we don=E2=80=99t need ND = filters. However, when you go fainter, we may not be able to find enough = stars with no neighbors, specially on the Milky Way disk regions. Is there any = disadvantages for using ND filters?=20 >=20 > Second, why is the igor virtual machine on the 3.5m observers computer = involved? Because SDSS doesn=E2=80=99t have that software. At some point, there is = discussion to rewrite the software in IDL or python. But I don't hear any progress on it and don=E2=80=99t if anyone has it as an action = item. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > John. =20 > From: sloan-25mlog on behalf of = kpan@apo.nmsu.edu > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 8:20:35 AM > To: obs-report-25m@apo.nmsu.edu > Subject: [sloan-25mlog 4393] 2.5m obslog 20190218 (SJD 58533) > =20 >=20 > APACHE POINT OBSERVATORY SDSS 2.5M >=20 > OBSERVING LOG > Monday February 18, 2019 >=20 > (SJD 58533) >=20 > ---- Observing Team ---- >=20 > Dmitry Bizyaev > Kaike Pan >=20 > Supports: > John Brinkmann > Jack Dembicky > Tracey Fernandez >=20 > ---- Observing Plan ---- >=20 > Mon 18 FEB 2019 58533.0 0.99 01:47 12:48 04:38 15:42 = Both =20 > APOGEE-2 (11.0 h)=20 >=20 > ---- Observing Summary ---- >=20 > The first 6 hours was lost to clouds, high wind.=20 > We homed/relaxed mirrors, built the fididucial tables, tested which = filter > combination (two ND filters and the two guider filters) would work for = pointing > model data collection. Looks like that we don't have a good = combination at the > moment. A NDX50 filter is highly desired.=20 >=20 > We finished the engineering camera instrument block, but seeing was = bad so we > will check the block tomorrow night if seeing is better. >=20 > Notes: > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > 1.Jose's test version of STUI 1.7.8 still doesn't display ecamera = images. Jose > was called and sent relevant info to.=20 >=20 > 2. igor virtue machine on 3.5m obs was down, reboot the computer = didn't bring the > virtue machine up, and Jack doesn't have permission to start it, JohB = move the > software to a shared folder, Jack started it for us. >=20 > 3. NDX400 filter was swapped out from the engineering camera. It would = be great > if we can buy a NDX50 filter. >=20 > 4. We accumulated 3.7K Dust-hours. >=20 >=20 > ---- Observing Log ---- >=20 > Afternoon > --------- > All systems checked and found working.=20 > APOGEE evening cals have been taken, thank you! Checked to ensure they = look OK. > Engineering camera is on, so the checkout is limited to darks and = biases, > guide camera, cart bay and telescope.=20 > BOSS spectrograph Collimation is not verified.=20 > In a sequence of a few biaes and dark it was noticed that BOSS does = not > take sp2 frames (both r and b) every second time. > Controllers reloaded. >=20 >=20 > 00:20Z ventilation started. Engineering camera hooked up.=20 >=20 > While ventilating, we performed the mirrors home-relax procedure.=20 >=20 > Night > ----- > opening postponed because of clouds. > Note: witht he new filter combination flat on the=20 > engineering camera integrates to ~6.5K in 300s.=20 > Reaching 40K sounds not realistic. Hopefully,=20 > ~20K will work, too (~1000 sec) >=20 > So, yes, with this filter combination we've got 19K in 1000s flat = exposure. > Then we swap out the ND400 filter with ND8. Got 39K with 35 s. >=20 > 07:00Z: sky clears up, wind speed went down to 30 mph. Enclosure open. > When we tried to connect to igor.apo.nmsu.edu, we could not connected = to. We > called TraveyF, JonB. With JonB on the phone, Jack and us are able t = find out > igor was running on 3.5m obs3 via a virtue machine. But we had a hard = time to > start the virtue machine because permission issue. JonB ended up with = moving the > software to a shared folder, so Jack is able to start the virtue = machine.=20 > It took a couple of hours to fix the issue. >=20 > Fitting to the grid data give good results. The image scale is = -16764.0 and > 16709.8, rot_ang is -89.93. The ring data gives Rot_Inst_xy of = -0.004697 and > 0.000363.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ---- Mirror Numbers ---- >=20 > EVENING numbers, before home-relaxing >=20 > PRIMARY: > -------- > Scale: 1.000000; >=20 > MIGS TONIGHT NOMINAL > Axial A: -5.319 -5.316 > Axial B: -5.081 -5.073 > Axial C: -5.344 -5.335 > Trans D: 10.722 10.728 > Lateral E: 9.0932 9.0932 > Lateral F: 14.224 14.2113 >=20 > GALILS > Commanded: 10250 -1100 7100 16850 12400 12400 > Actual: 10250 -1100 7100 16850 12400 12400 >=20 > SETMIR VALUES > PrimDesOrient: 0.0 3.27 2.1 115.0 -178.65 > PrimOrient: -1.06 3.29 2.19 115.07 -177.78 >=20 > SECONDARY: > ---------- >=20 > Focus: 0.0000 > Air temp: -0.4 > Altitude: 30.3 >=20 > MIGS TONIGHT NOMINAL > Axial A: -0.7 -0.702 > Axial B: -0.691 -0.692 > Axial C: -0.081 -0.085 > Trans D: -0.101 -0.099 >=20 > GALILS > Commanded: 867750 873450 831500 -5700 -7450 > Actual: 832552 853434 792716 -5700 -7450 >=20 > SETMIR VALUES > SecDesOrient: 655.71 18.56 2.83 -17.12 137.85 > SecOrient: 655.67 18.58 2.78 -16.92 138.06 >=20 >=20 > NUMBERS AFTER THE HOME-RELAXING >=20 > PRIMARY: > -------- > Scale: 1.000000; >=20 > MIGS TONIGHT NOMINAL > Axial A: -5.321 -5.321 > Axial B: -5.075 -5.075 > Axial C: -5.34 -5.34 > Trans D: 10.723 10.723 > Lateral E: 9.0932 9.0932 > Lateral F: 14.1605 14.1605 >=20 > GALILS > Commanded: 10250 -1100 7100 16850 12400 12400 > Actual: 10250 -1100 7100 16850 12400 12400 >=20 > SETMIR VALUES > PrimDesOrient: 0.0 3.27 2.1 115.0 -178.65 > PrimOrient: -1.06 3.29 2.19 115.07 -177.78 >=20 > SECONDARY: > ---------- >=20 > Focus: 0.0000 > Air temp: -0.1 > Altitude: 30.1 >=20 > MIGS TONIGHT NOMINAL > Axial A: -0.704 -0.704 > Axial B: -0.694 -0.694 > Axial C: -0.084 -0.084 > Trans D: -0.099 -0.099 >=20 > GALILS > Commanded: 871750 876450 832750 -5750 -7500 > Actual: 834083 855160 794404 -5750 -7500 >=20 > SETMIR VALUES > SecDesOrient: 657.0 18.54 2.85 -17.2 138.98 > SecOrient: 656.99 18.57 2.86 -16.87 139.22 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ---- Telescope Status ---- >=20 >=20 > 00:20Z and 6:00Z Started ventilation > 07:00Z encl25m : open > 13:20Z encl25m : closed >=20 > No interlocks bypassed >=20 > Status at: > Telescope stowed at: 121.0, 30.0, 0.0 mount > Instrument mounted: 340 engCam =20 > Counterweights at: =20 > LN2 autofill systems: Connected and turned on > 180L LN2 dewar scales: SP1 250 lbs, 23 psi > SP2 250 lbs, psi > 20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ---- Software Used ---- >=20 >=20 > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/vdd 688G 615G 74G 90% /home > /dev/vdc1 11T 8.9T 1.9T 83% /data >=20 >=20 > -- Other versions ---- > idlspec2d : v5_7_12 > plate-mapper3 : NOCVS:v6_0_12 > petunia : git > autoscheduler : 1.0.1/ > sdss_python_module: trunk > mangadrp : trunk exported >=20 >=20 > STUI : 1.7.7 > alerts : trunk > apo : trunk > boss : v4_0 > -boss.specMec : 3.0.4 > gcamera : v2_2 > guider : 3.8.1 > hartmann : 1.6.0 > hub : Tag: v4.2 > mcp : v7_0_4 > -mcp.plc : 34 > -mcp.azFiduci : v1_133 > -mcp.altFiduc : v1_133 > -mcp.rotFiduc : v1_133 > platedb : 2.8.0 > sop : 3.12.2 > tcc : 1.3.1 > apogee : not availble > apogeecal : not availble > apogeeql : v1_6_1 > APO-local : not availble >=20 >=20 > ____________________________________________________________ > Logs of Nightly APO Activities > = https://trac.sdss.org/tracmailman/browser/private/sloan-25mlog/index.html = --Apple-Mail=_45BF0563-52D8-494B-996E-77D7F61F258D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 On Feb 19, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Wilson, John C (jcw6z) = wrote:Hi = Kaike,Just a few questions on the night = log:I may be wrong, but I thought we were = trying to eliminate use of neutral density filters from the = filter stack on the engineering camera when taking pointing = models. Now that may be predicated on use of a Gaia catalogue with = appropriate magnitudes. And it looks like you were trying to do an = instrument block with the engineering camera, not the pointing model = itself. Am I mistaken about the goal to remove ND = filters?There are not many stars fainter than 10 mag in = the current catalog. I cannot do instrument block or pointing models = without ND filters. Yes, if we haveenough stars in the = magnitude rang of 13 to 14, we don=E2=80=99t need ND filters. However, = when you go fainter, we may not be able to find enough = starswith no neighbors, specially on the Milky Way disk = regions. Is there any disadvantages for using ND filters? Second, why is the igor virtual machine on the 3.5m = observers computer involved?Because SDSS doesn=E2=80=99t have that software. = At some point, there is discussion to rewrite the software in IDL or = python. But I don'thear any progress on it and don=E2=80=99t = if anyone has it as an action item.Thanks,John. = From: sloan-25mlog on behalf of kpan@apo.nmsu.edu = Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 = 8:20:35 AMTo: obs-report-25m@apo.nmsu.eduSubject: [sloan-25mlog 4393] 2.5m = obslog 20190218 (SJD 58533) &nb= sp; = APACHE POINT OBSERVATORY SDSS 2.5M &nb= sp;  = ; OBSERVING LOG &nb= sp;  = ; Monday February 18, 2019 &nb= sp;  = ; (SJD = 58533)---- Observing Team ----Dmitry BizyaevKaike PanSupports:John BrinkmannJack DembickyTracey Fernandez---- Observing Plan ----Mon 18 = FEB 2019 58533.0 0.99 = 01:47 12:48 04:38 = 15:42 Both APOGEE-2 = (11.0 h) ---- Observing Summary ----The first 6 hours was lost to clouds, high wind. We = homed/relaxed mirrors, built the fididucial tables, tested which = filtercombination (two ND filters and the two guider = filters) would work for pointingmodel data collection. = Looks like that we don't have a good combination at themoment. A NDX50 filter is highly desired. We finished the engineering camera instrument block, but = seeing was bad so wewill check the block tomorrow night = if seeing is better.Notes:=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D1.Jose's test version of = STUI 1.7.8 still doesn't display ecamera images. Josewas = called and sent relevant info to. 2. igor virtue machine on 3.5m obs was down, reboot the = computer didn't bring thevirtue machine up, and Jack = doesn't have permission to start it, JohB move thesoftware = to a shared folder, Jack started it for us.3. NDX400 filter was swapped out from the engineering camera. = It would be greatif we can buy a NDX50 filter.4. We accumulated 3.7K Dust-hours.---- Observing Log ----Afternoon---------All systems checked and found working. APOGEE = evening cals have been taken, thank you! Checked to ensure they look = OK.Engineering camera is on, so the checkout is limited = to darks and biases,guide camera, cart bay and = telescope. BOSS spectrograph Collimation is not verified. In a = sequence of a few biaes and dark it was noticed that BOSS does nottake sp2 frames (both r and b) every second time.Controllers reloaded.00:20Z ventilation started. Engineering camera hooked = up. While ventilating, we performed the mirrors home-relax = procedure. Night-----opening = postponed because of clouds.Note: witht he new filter = combination flat on the engineering = camera integrates to ~6.5K in 300s. Reaching 40K = sounds not realistic. Hopefully, ~20K will = work, too (~1000 sec)So, yes, with this = filter combination we've got 19K in 1000s flat exposure.Then we swap out the ND400 filter with ND8. Got 39K with 35 = s.07:00Z: sky clears up, wind speed went = down to 30 mph. Enclosure open.When we tried to connect = to igor.apo.nmsu.edu, = we could not connected to. Wecalled TraveyF, JonB. = With JonB on the phone, Jack and us are able t find outigor= was running on 3.5m obs3 via a virtue machine. But we had a hard time = tostart the virtue machine because permission issue. JonB = ended up with moving thesoftware to a shared folder, so = Jack is able to start the virtue machine. It took a = couple of hours to fix the issue.Fitting = to the grid data give good results. The image scale is -16764.0 and16709.8, rot_ang is -89.93. The ring data gives Rot_Inst_xy = of -0.004697 and0.000363. ---- Mirror Numbers ----EVENING numbers, before home-relaxingPRIMARY:--------Scale: 1.000000;MIGS  = ; TONIGHT NOMINALAxial = A: -5.319 -5.316Axial B: = -5.081 -5.073Axial = C: -5.344 -5.335Trans D: = 10.722 10.728Lateral = E: 9.0932 9.0932Lateral= F: 14.224 14.2113GALILSCommanded: 10250 -1100 7100 16850 = 12400 12400Actual: 10250 -1100 = 7100 16850 12400 12400SETMIR VALUESPrimDesOrient: 0.0 3.27 2.1 115.0 -178.65PrimOrient: -1.06 3.29 2.19 115.07 = -177.78SECONDARY:----------Focus: 0.0000Air = temp: -0.4Altitude: 30.3MIGS  = ; TONIGHT NOMINALAxial = A: -0.7 = -0.702Axial B: = -0.691 -0.692Axial = C: -0.081 -0.085Trans D: = -0.101 -0.099GALILSCommanded: 867750 873450 831500 -5700 -7450Actual: 832552 853434 792716 -5700 -7450SETMIR VALUESSecDesOrient: = 655.71 18.56 2.83 -17.12 137.85SecOrient: = 655.67 18.58 2.78 -16.92 138.06NUMBERS AFTER THE HOME-RELAXINGPRIMARY:--------Scale: = 1.000000;MIGS  = ; TONIGHT NOMINALAxial = A: -5.321 -5.321Axial B: = -5.075 -5.075Axial = C: -5.34 -5.34Trans D: = 10.723 10.723Lateral = E: 9.0932 9.0932Lateral= F: 14.1605 14.1605GALILSCommanded: 10250 -1100 7100 16850 = 12400 12400Actual: 10250 -1100 = 7100 16850 12400 12400SETMIR VALUESPrimDesOrient: 0.0 3.27 2.1 115.0 -178.65PrimOrient: -1.06 3.29 2.19 115.07 = -177.78SECONDARY:----------Focus: 0.0000Air = temp: -0.1Altitude: 30.1MIGS  = ; TONIGHT NOMINALAxial = A: -0.704 -0.704Axial B: = -0.694 -0.694Axial = C: -0.084 -0.084Trans D: = -0.099 -0.099GALILSCommanded: 871750 876450 832750 -5750 -7500Actual: 834083 855160 794404 -5750 -7500SETMIR VALUESSecDesOrient: = 657.0 18.54 2.85 -17.2 138.98SecOrient: = 656.99 18.57 2.86 -16.87 139.22---- Telescope Status ----00:20Z and 6:00Z = Started ventilation07:00Z encl25m : = open13:20Z encl25m : closedNo interlocks bypassedStatus at:Telescope stowed = at: 121.0, 30.0, 0.0 mountInstrument mounted: 340 = engCam Counterweights= at: LN2 autofill = systems: Connected and turned on180L LN2 = dewar scales: SP1 250 = lbs, 23 psi &nb= sp;  = ; SP2 250 = lbs, psi20---- Software Used ----Filesystem Size Used = Avail Use% Mounted on/dev/vdd 688G = 615G 74G 90% /home/dev/vdc1 11T = 8.9T 1.9T 83% /data-- Other versions ----idlspec2d : = v5_7_12plate-mapper3 : = NOCVS:v6_0_12petunia &n= bsp; : gitautoscheduler : = 1.0.1/sdss_python_module: trunkmangadrp = : trunk exportedSTUI : = 1.7.7alerts : = trunkapo = : trunkboss : = v4_0-boss.specMec : 3.0.4gcamera : v2_2guider : 3.8.1hartmann : 1.6.0hub = : Tag: v4.2mcp = : v7_0_4-mcp.plc : 34-mcp.azFiduci : v1_133-mcp.altFiduc : = v1_133-mcp.rotFiduc : v1_133platedb : 2.8.0sop = : 3.12.2tcc = : 1.3.1apogee = : not availbleapogeecal : not = availbleapogeeql : = v1_6_1APO-local : not availble____________________________________________________________Logs of Nightly APO Activities https://trac.sdss.org/tracmailman/browser/private/sloan-25mlog/= index.html= --Apple-Mail=_45BF0563-52D8-494B-996E-77D7F61F258D--