Subject: Re: [sloan-25mlog 2209] 2.5m obslog 20150404 (SJD 57117) From: Kaike Pan Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 09:09:02 -0600 Hello All, I went through night logs in Feb, March, and April, with my memory, I = summarize known problems that may somewhat relate to the new tcc along with my temporary fixes (from = night operation aspect) in SDSS Observing Plan page:=20 = https://trac.sdss.org/wiki/APO/Observatory/ObserverForum/SDSSIVObsPlans/Ap= r2015#Knownnewtccproblems Please let me know if there are more new tcc related issues that = observers should know, and if these temporary fixes make sense. Thanks, -kaike > On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Kaike Pan wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:27 AM, Dan Long wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> On Apr 5, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Kaike Pan wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Dan Long wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Kaike Pan wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:12 AM, dmbiz@apo.nmsu.edu wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> APACHE POINT OBSERVATORY SDSS 2.5M >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> OBSERVING LOG >>>>>> Saturday April 04, 2015 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> (SJD 57117) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> ---- Observing Team ---- >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Gordon Freischlad >>>>>> Dmitry Bizyaev >>>>>> Dan Long (phone) >>>>>> Connor Sayres (stui chat) >>>>>> John Parejko (stui chat) >>>>>> Jon Brinkmann (phone) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> ---- Observing Summary ---- >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Mostly cloudy - to almost clear night with decent seeing. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> APOGEE plates exposed: >>>>>> 1 8045 176+00 1xABBA+1xAB+MANGA. 3 missing fibers, 2 faint >>>>>> 4 8052 270+60 2xABBA+MANGA, 6 missing, 3 faint >>>>>> 9 8467 ORPHAN-2 2xABBA, 2 missing, 2 faint >>>>>> 8 8472 ORPHAN-4 2xABBA, 4 missing, 3 faint >>>>>> 7 8351 URMINOR 1xABBAx1000 sec, 1 missing, 3 faint >>>>>> 5 7955 M5PAL5 2xBAAB+1xBA, 4 missing, 3faint >>>>>> 6 8477 025+12 2xABBA, 2 missing, 7 faint >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> There were issues with bias exposures during afternoon=20 >>>>>> checkout.=20 >>>>>> AZ axis did not move, and we spent significant time on >>>>>> fixing it, with JP, CS, DL, and JB on the phone.=20 >>>>>> See the afternoon section of the log for details. >>>>>> Some 30 min of observing time was lost due to this problem >>>>>> (with partly cloudy sky and engineering time, any way) >>>>>> We collected some 15K dust-hours on the optics. Please check.=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thank Dmitry for the details in the log.=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> We saw the same problem with a older version (2 versions older) of = the new tcc. >>>>> Basically, no error, but the telescope doesn=92t response to =93tcc = track=94 command, >>>>> and that the telescope moves normally with mcp, and that rebooting = mcp from >>>>> mcpMenu (with hard option) does fixed the problem. Instead, the = mcp needs >>>>> to be rebooted from the crate. That said, this does=92t looks like = a problem with >>>>> the only new version tcc. But I thought that this is a problem = that the new version=20 >>>>> tcc tried to fix: Communication issue between multiplexor and tcc, = Conor, is this >>>>> true?=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> There was an interesting and perhaps significant difference between = this and the previous failure you mention. In this case only one axis = (azimuth) failed to respond to the track command. >>>=20 >>> Last time, it was altitude that didn=92t response to track command. = But we didn=92t try to move the telescope on other axes. It still could = be the same=20 >>> problem but on a different axis.=20 >>=20 >> If I remember right, we opened (using the menu to move alt) and tried = slewing in all axes when the enclosure was off, and nothing moved. At = least that is what I think was going on (I was in the control room at = the time). >=20 > I don=92t recall that we tried to move the telescope on other axes. I = will dig into logs to find it out tonight.=20 >=20 >>=20 >>>=20 >>>> It does appear that somehow occasionally when restarting the new = TCC (or changing versions), the mcp gets affected in a way that causes = at least some communications from the TCC to get ignored. >>>>=20 >>>> -Dan >=20 > ____________________________________________________________ > Logs of Nightly APO Activities > = https://trac.sdss.org/tracmailman/browser/private/sloan-25mlog/index.html