Subject: Re: [sloan-25mlog 2220] 2.5m obslog 20150409 (SJD 57122)
From: "John K. Parejko"
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:43:42 -0400
Thanks for the clarification, Audrey. That makes more sense.
The way it was laid out in the log, it looked like more time had been =
lost, but it was because of the preliminary APOGEE exposures.
I'll spend some time this week thinking about how to revise the =
interface to reduce such problems in the future.
John
On 10Apr 2015, at 16:54, Audrey Oravetz  wrote:
> Lsat night, we observed 2 X 900 sec MaNGA exposures at the 'C' =
position
> while we took 1 X ABBA set of exposures for APOGEE2 during the =
twilight
> hours while we were waiting for 15-degree twilight.
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> At the start of 15-degree twilight, we started the regular sequence =
MaNGA
> sequence, but I forgot to hit the 'default' button. Therefore, we =
started
> taking a 'C' dither position exposure and not the regular 'N'.
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> I recognized this mistake ~8 minutes into the exposure, so we lost =
only a
> few minutes. However, we ran a little further into APOGEE2 time during =
the
> transition (about 10 minutes), and then stayed 10 minutes later during =
the
> morning twilight hours for APOGEE2 to make up for all of this.
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> In essence, no time was lost, and APOGEE2 got bonus 1XABBA exposures =
at
> the beginning of the night.
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> Yes, it is VERY easy to mistake which project is leading. The =
observers
> really have to pay attention and click the 'default' button. I =
apologize
> for missing this.
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> Audrey
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>> Thank you John for catching this.
>> All observers, PLEASE put all time lose in the observing summer =
section.
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>>> On Apr 10, 2015, at 9:12 AM, John K. Parejko
>>> wrote:
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>>> I'm curious how this happened: For a MaNGA lead plate, SOP should =
have
>>> filled in the default dither sequence. Did that not happen, was it
>>> overridden, or what?
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>> This is why I request this to be fixed as soon as possible. After a
>> cartridge with co-observing plate is loaded into SOP, observers have =
to
>> click-on default to
>> get correct dither sequences for the plate. otherwise, SOP will have
>> dither sequence from the previous co-observing plate. i.e if the =
previous
>> is a APOGEE-led
>> co-observing plate, and a new MaNGA-led co-observing plate is loaded =
into
>> SOP, SOP will still have dither sequence for APOGEE-led plate, i.c.
>> =E2=80=9CCC=E2=80=9D. Observers have to click on default to get =
dither sequence of
>> =E2=80=9CNSE=E2=80=9D.  If the previous co-observing plate is a =
MaNGA-led, and a new
>> APOGEE-led is loaded into SOP, then
>> SOP has dither sequence set to =E2=80=9CNSE=E2=80=9D till =
=E2=80=9Cdefault=E2=80=9D is clicked
>> that will change to =E2=80=9CCC=E2=80=9D.  So PLEASE fix the relevant =
tickets on this.
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>> A temporary fix - click on =E2=80=9Cdefault=E2=80=9D after a =
co-obsrving plate is
>> loaded, is posted in =E2=80=9Cobserving tips=E2=80=9D page and SDSS =
Observing Plan
>> page,
>> but I knew this could hit us.
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>>> This does push me toward revising the APOGEE-led co-observing SOP =
window
>>> appearance, but that's going to require more work and thought.
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>>> Also, for time tracking purposes, I'd say it was ~40 minutes lost, =
as
>>> the MaNGA C positions won't be useable for their main science =
(though
>>> I'd guess they could come up with some other use for them).
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>>> John
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>>> On 10Apr 2015, at 08:22, kgrabowski@apo.nmsu.edu wrote:
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>>>> 02:04:59  apogee.expose=3DapRaw-15600011, 42, A, Object
>>>> 02:05:05  boss exposure  900.0, file=3D198009, C
>>>> 02:12:29  apogee.expose=3DapRaw-15600012, 42, B, Object
>>>> 02:21:56  apogee.expose=3DapRaw-15600013, 42, B, Object
>>>> 02:22:03  boss exposure  900.0, file=3D198010, C
>>>> 02:29:31  apogee.expose=3DapRaw-15600014, 42, A, Object
>>>> 02:39:10  apogee.expose=3DapRaw-15600015, 42, A, Object
>>>> 02:39:17  boss exposure  900.0, file=3D198011, C
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>>>> Aborted this exposure because we should have started an NSE set.
>>>> Lost ~10 minutes for incorrect dither position.
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>>> --
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>>> John Parejko
>>> john.parejko@yale.edu
>>> http://www.astro.yale.edu/~jp727/
>>> 203 432-9759
>>> JWG 465
>>> Department of Physics
>>> Yale University
>>> New Haven, CT
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John Parejko
john.parejko@yale.edu
http://www.astro.yale.edu/~jp727/
203 432-9759
JWG 465
Department of Physics
Yale University
New Haven, CT
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