From: stephanie snedden Subject: Re: 2.5m obslog 20090107 (MJD 54839) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 16:42:49 -0700 Audrey and I are at a at a loss, too.We checked everything we could think of. One of our spiralPatterns went to a radius of 50 arcsec (!) and we saw nothing, so this was not a small pointing error. We've had it happen before that one night no stars are found on a plate, and the next night they are. I don't know if we've ever figured that mystery out. Steph On Jan 8, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Dan Long wrote: > I'm not sure what happened last night with 3090 and 3091. They > have been successfully observed before (54811, and 54816). This > would indicate that the problem is not intrinsic to the plate. I > didn't see any difference in coordinates between the plugMapM file > on host2 and the original plugMapP file on plate-mapper for 3090 > (didn't check 3091), so I am at a loss to explain the problems > finding the field last night. > > -Dan > >> APACHE POINT OBSERVATORY SDSS 2.5M >> >> OBSERVING LOG >> Wednesday January 7, 2009 >> >> (MJD 54839) >> >> ---=== OBSERVING TEAM ===--- >> >> Audrey Simmons >> Steph Snedden >> Kaike Pan (swing) >> JiWei Xue (UF) >> >> ---=== OBSERVING PLAN ===--- >> >> MARVELS Science! >> >> ---=== OBSERVING SUMMARY ===--- >> >> Observed and got data on five MARVELS survey fields, but clouds >> affected data >> early, and poor seeing toward and through second half. Two more >> MARVELS plates >> were tried, but no guide stars were found. One SEGUE plate exposure >> was taken >> at the end of the night. >> >> ---=== OBSERVING LOG ===--- >> > > . > . > . > >> 08:25Z Cartridge 6, plate 3090 field A - MARVELS Survey >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> No guide stars, no FK5. We tried spiralPatterns in different >> fibers, we tried >> old offsets for this field plus spiralPatterns. We tried going to >> the B field >> and couldn't find guide stars there either. We occasionally saw >> random stars >> in a fiber, so we know the guider was working. All the fiducial >> crossings were >> made during the slews to both fields. We tried mounting and >> unmounting the >> cartridge in case there was some odd tilt from poor latching. We >> then checked >> the mirror numbers to see if we had a stuck actuator that caused a >> tilt. >> >> At this point, it was time to move on to the next cartridge. >> >> 10:16Z - Cartridge 1, plate 3091 field A - MARVELS Survey >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> Again, no guide stars. We went to the nearest FK5 and found a star, >> but it was >> too faint to be an FK5. We centered on it anyway, went back to the >> field, and >> no guide stars. We were grasping at straws at this point. We did more >> spiralPatterns, a soft reboot of the MCP and rechecked the fiducial >> crossing >> errors. Still no guide stars. >> We checked the TCC clock and it was giving correct LST, so that >> wasn't the >> problem either. >> >> 3.3 hours lost trying to get data on these plates. >> >> There was really only one thing left to do and that was to check >> the pointing >> with our late-night known good SEGUE plate that was still plugged. >> >> 11:44Z - Cartridge 8, plate 3178 - SEGUE2 >> ----------------------------------------- >> Guide stars on goToField. Guess that rules out telescope pointing >> problems and >> indicates the problems with 3090 and 3091 are in the design or the >> plugMap >> files. > . > . > .