Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 22:02:06 -0400 (EDT) From: jegunn Subject: Re: 2.5m obslog 20050826 (MJD 53609) Sorry, Dan, I fired off my reply before getting to yours. Do you remember the readhead moving before? You and I argued for a long time about a -0.01 degree offset on the rotator, but if things had ever changed by .14 degrees in the past we would have certainly screamed. ???? thanks --jim On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Dan Long wrote: > Hi Steph, > > I recall when the altitude read head was modified, getting the > axis to index properly was a bit tricky. I think there was some > extra step involved, like resetting the canonical fiducial. Since > the rotator is a complete tape, I don't know if the rotator even has > a canonical fiducial. > > In any case, I don't believe you should have to take another > pointing model if all you do is change the rotator fiducial table. > I'm pretty sure the model doesn't even consider rotation. That would > be handled by the instrument block. The only effect of a rotator > error would be to introduce an error in the correction proportional > to the angular error (and .1 degrees for the small corrections > applied in the model would I think be insignificant). > > If you choose not to take more rotator fiducial data, you will > need to adjust the instrument blocks of the imager and spectrographs > to compensate. rot_inst_ang would need change by .14 degrees (not > sure about sign). Probably the simplest way to get the exact amount > would be to mount the imager with cleared offsets, let skippy or > ltmatch give you the rotator error, then use inst_edit to > interactively change rot_inst_ang while tracking. If you get the > sign right, the error should go away. If wrong, the error should > double. > > > Once you get rot_inst_ang where you want it, make sure you edit the > instrument blocks to make the change permanent (it should be the same > change for both imager and spectrographs). > > Note that you would still have to do instrument changes at -.14 > degrees mount to get things to line up, until the fiducial table is > corrected. > > Cheers, > > Dan > > > >Thanks for the fixes. A few questions (hopefuly not too dumb). > > > > What would cause this offset after Wendell took rotator fiducial > >data? If we took new data, why wouldn't we get the same offset? It > >sounds like the read head has moved, and there's no point in getting > >new fiducial crossings in that case. > > > >Doesn't this mean the instruments will be off by this amount in the > >rotator when we go to a field? Won't we have to correct this each > >time? > > > > > >On Aug 27, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Jon Brinkmann wrote: > >> > >>Steve and I investigated the problems mounting the imager. We found > >>and corrected two items: > >> > >>1) The physical home position of the rotator is at about -0.14 > >> degrees as shown on the MCP. This was determined by checking > >> the pointer on the east side of the PSS against the mark on the > >> rotator. We're not sure how this occured, but there are two > >> solutions: > >> > >> 1) Move the rotator to -0.14 degrees (instead of 0.0) > >> for instrument change. > >> > >> 2) Take new rotator fiducual data, generate a new table, > >> and obtain a new pointing model. > >> > >> Of the two, I prefer the first, at least until next bright time > >> when we will take new fiducial data on all the axes. The > >> second solution would consume precious time on the sky. > >> > >>2) The east saddle locating pin was mis-positioned. We loosened > >> the pin, mounted the imager, and centered the pin. > >> > >>After correcting these items, we mounted the imager three times with no > >>problems. > >> > >>Steve & Jon > > > DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS Digital Sky Survey DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS > DSS *** The information posted to SDSS mailing lists is proprietary *** > DSS This is message 2526 in the sdss-25mlog archive, URL > DSS http://www.astro.princeton.edu:81/sdss-25mlog/msg.2526.html > DSS The index is at http://www.astro.princeton.edu:81/sdss-25mlog/INDEX.html > DSS To join/leave the list, go to > DSS http://www.astro.princeton.edu:81/cgi-bin/mailinglists.pl/show_subscription?list=sdss-25mlog > DSS To post a message, mail it to sdss-25mlog@astro.princeton.edu > DSS > DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS DSS >